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The Christian Faith and the Manosphere : An Application of the Doctrine of the Two Kingdoms

The following was actually a comment I left on Sunshine Mary’s blog post with regards to whether a Christian should be concerned with sexual attracton. Since it has grown considerably in length, I thought that I would turn it into a post of my own.

If I might place this discussion within a broader theological context, it is traditional Protestant doctrine, having its roots in St Augustine’s “Two Cities”, that God rules the world via two “hands”: He rules the “external” or “this-worldly” realm via Reason or what Luther calls his “left-handed” rule, and he rules the internal or “spiritual” realm (namely, the heart, conscience, faith, etc) via his Word and the Holy Spirit or what Luther calls his “right-handed” rule. This is the doctrine of the “Two Kingdoms”.

Thus to give an analogy, St Paul teaches in the Scriptures that every man must provide for his own household on the pain of denying his faith and being worse than an unbeliever (1 Timothy 5:8), thus this apostolic command is binding upon the Christian’s conscience (the “right hand” rule) by the Word which conviction is wrought by the Holy Ghost. However, how a man goes about doing this is dependent upon his Reason (broadly speaking, let’s assume that of course he is not doing anything illegal or contrary to the law of God). If he is a financier he must use his financial knowledge to trade, if he is an engineer his engineering knowledge, etc, the point being that while the Scriptures gives us laws binding upon our conscience, the Scriptures does not teach us how to repair a car, make a business deal, when to plant our crops, or in general, how to generate household income. To know how to deal with “this-world” governed by the laws of physics and human nature, we use our God-given reason and brains via science, observation, common sense, logic, etc, to know how precisely to generate this income in obedience to the command to provide for one’s household.

Thus in the context of this discussion, it is interesting to note that even within Protestantism there are two distinct traditions with regards to where is marriage located in the “Two Kingdoms”. Is it a special distinct Christian “spiritual” estate, a sacrament as Roman Catholicism has traditionally taught, or is it a “this-worldly” enterprise which Christians shares with non-Christians?

Luther himself believed that marriage is a wholly “this-worldly” thing and even argued that just as a Christian can do business and trade with non-Christians or work for non-Christians or hire non-Christians, etc, likewise can a Christian marry non-Christians since marriage is a worldly physical thing on par with business, trade and government, etc.

One does not need to accept Luther’s inference (that Christians can marry non-Christians), to accept his more general point that marriage is a “this-worldly” affair, a civic ordinance like government, contracts, property, the military, etc. Of course it is important to note at once that a Christian’s conscience, being bound by the Word of God, is required to engage in the civic order with honesty and integrity, thus in matters of trade the Christian should not use “false weights” and cheat our customers, etc, as the Augsburg Confession puts it,

Of Civil Affairs [we] teach that lawful civil ordinances are good works of God, and that it is right for Christians to bear civil office, to sit as judges, to judge matters by the Imperial and other existing laws, to award just punishments, to engage in just wars, to serve as soldiers, to make legal contracts, to hold property, to make oath when required by the magistrates, to marry a wife, to be given in marriage… the Gospel teaches an eternal righteousness of the heart. Meanwhile, it does not destroy the State or the family, but very much requires that they be preserved as ordinances of God, and that charity be practiced in such ordinances. Therefore, Christians are necessarily bound to obey their own magistrates and laws save only when commanded to sin; for then they ought to obey God rather than men.

Article XVI: Of Civil Affairs.

Likewise, marriage being a “this-worldly” thing does not entail that the Christian is free to follow whatever the Zeitgeist blows but instead obeys this civic ordinance also in accordance to the Word of God, e.g. no divorces, marital duties and ordering of the genders, etc.

Thus, although God does command in the Scriptures laws with regards to the marital life, but the Scriptures does not provide in detail how exactly the Christian is to go about doing this, just as St Paul commands in the Scriptures that Christians are to provide for their own household without telling them how they are going to do this. Thus, herein is where the insights of the manosphere, game, LAMPS, etc, comes in. These provides empirical facts and details about gender relation, biological functions, etc, which helps Christians couples to fulfil their marital obligations, etc, just as knowledge of science, engineering, economics, etc, helps the Christian farmer, engineer, stock broker, etc, earn his keep and provide for his household.

Thus in a sense, the distinction between “non-Scriptural” and “unscriptural” is entirely correct. Newton’s theory, the law of supply and demand, vector calculus are “non-Scriptural” in the sense that they aren’t found in the Scriptures, but they aren’t “unscriptural” because they do not contradict the Scriptures, they are simply part of the order of God’s world, etc.

It is understandable that there might be some apprehension with regards to the “Two Kingdoms” doctrine given how “over-spiritualised” many contemporary churches have made marriages, virtually denying its “this-worldly” features and entanglements, as if our bodies have already been raised with a “spiritual body” without involving any biology or the facts of anthropology, etc. And also a much deeper worry is that saying that marriage is “this-worldly” may give license to adultery and fornications and “tingles”, etc, on the basis that the laws of biology are supreme. But as already noted, although the Christian must use his reason to engage in business and trade, etc, but that does not me that he is free to rip people off, but is still bound to the laws of God in how he engages in those enterprise, likewise is the Word still supreme in the conscience with regards to the marital life.

Therefore, the Christian does ask of the Father for their “daily bread”, yet  he does not expect God to provide this daily bread directly from the heavens as it were, but distributes it down here on earth via our reason, knowledge, our talents, our resources, our civic institutions, or more generally, via His general Providence, likewise does the Christian ask of God for purity of heart and strength to keep their marriage vows, but knowing that God provide us with the means to keep it here on earth, that is, with our brains, our physical resources, etc.

Thus, just as it would be both irresponsible and tempting God to ask Him to “short-circuit” the process as it were, to ask him to turn stones to bread when he has already provided the seed and the land and the weather, likewise would it be tempting God to ask Him to short-circuit the process when he has already provided the means and knowledge for keeping one’s marriage vows, expecting him to magically “flick a switch” as it were to alter how we are wired, etc. But of course in times of extraordinary need, God may provide for extraordinary measures, but I trust that we aren’t talking about those exceptional cases but in the ordinary course of this world, etc.

As the late Iron Lady once said,

Pennies don’t fall from heaven, they have to be earned here on earth.

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5 comments on “The Christian Faith and the Manosphere : An Application of the Doctrine of the Two Kingdoms

  1. Cal
    October 16, 2013

    I think that’s one way of reading Augustine, but there is much more conflict between Augustine’s two cities than you make it seem. While Luther utilized certain terminology, he missed the divide that separates a citizen of the CoG from the CoM. The physical/temporal world doesn’t constitute the CoM.

    You’re right to say reason plays a certain role in the common, but for the disciples the core is the holy love of God. Thus I don’t cheat my employee, or crush my wife because of an other oriented love,commanded from our Lord.

    Thus in a particular doing, we do unto the glory of God, manifesting the Kingdom. In marriage, as Paul says, we’re to embody Christ to one another (a husband in giving & serving, a wife in submitting). The outgoing love is holy amidst the common things, and thus apart of the CoG whereas the CoM is driven by a love of man.

    This doesn’t therefore ‘sanctify’ the thing itself, contra to dominionists et al. but also makes things clean to use contra escapists et al.

    I suppose what puts apart a sacrament is that it is a dominical sign instituted with a specific dominical intent. Thus while baptism may resemble bathing, it is sacrament in that it is instituted by Christ for the purposes of entering into Him and His Kingdom.

    My 2 cents,
    Cal

    • Dominic
      October 17, 2013

      I think that’s one way of reading Augustine, but there is much more conflict between Augustine’s two cities than you make it seem. While Luther utilized certain terminology, he missed the divide that separates a citizen of the CoG from the CoM. The physical/temporal world doesn’t constitute the CoM.

      Thanks for your comments, but I never claimed to be representing St Augustine’s Two Cities, etc. I only said that the traditional Protestant doctrine has its roots in St Augustine’s conception, not that it is actually identical with it. As a side note, I am rarely interested in debates and disputes as to what some ancient thinker/theologian/philosopher really thought or said. As a Protestant, I cite the ancient writers simply because they have illuminating insights or explanations for certain concepts and issues at hand which I’m interested in. But the moment you want to move to the metalevel of asking whether these ancient writers “really” mean or said that, I would then gladly abandon them and find someone else who can explain the idea in clearer and better detail rather than waste time in the tedious task of engaging in exegesis of some ancient thinker’s text. Unless the issue directly has to do with a scholarly study of the person himself, I prefer to stick directly to the issue at hand than argue over what some guy “really” meant.

      You’re right to say reason plays a certain role in the common, but for the disciples the core is the holy love of God. Thus I don’t cheat my employee, or crush my wife because of an other oriented love,commanded from our Lord.

      I’m not sure what to make of this. I’m fairly certain that pagans and those who do not confess Christ also do these good deeds of not cheating their wives or employees because (in the causative sense) of the love of God who gives them the grace to avoid such sin (the alternative of course is to say that the devil gave them the ability to perform these good deeds, an odd claim at best), thus for both the pagans and the Christian, the root of their ability to do good works is equally “the holy love of God” who gives them grace to perform works of temporal righteousness, etc.

      The only other meaning is that the motivations of the Christian is different from that of the pagan for doing the same good deed which is outwardly indistinguishable between the Christian and the pagan. If that is so, I am a little more skeptical of this claim for Christians. First because our own motives are fundamentally hidden and inscrutable to ourselves (“For I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore do not pronounce judgement before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God.” 1 Corinthians 4:4-5) But more importantly, it is a little dishonest to pretend that the Christian’s motives are often that pure, for even if we want to privilege some form of psychological introspection as a reliable form of determination of one’s own motives (a dubious claim at best for self-reporting and introspection are among the most liable to deception), it is clear that often we do our “good deeds” not because of something as exalted as out of “the holy love of God”, but perhaps due to more mundane motivations like shame, fear of the judgement of others, a worldly sentimental/romantic attachment to one’s spouse, etc. We really should not pretend otherwise with slightly disingenious theological talk. Ultimately in the words of Dietrich Bonhoeffer,

      To long for the transcendent when you are in your wife’s arms is, to put it mildly, a lack of taste, and … not what God expects of us. We ought to find God and love him in the blessings he sends us. If he …grants us some overwhelming earthly bliss, we ought not to try and be more religious than God himself…

      Thus, I am afraid that I must reject these claims here:

      Thus in a particular doing, we do unto the glory of God, manifesting the Kingdom. In marriage, as Paul says, we’re to embody Christ to one another (a husband in giving & serving, a wife in submitting). The outgoing love is holy amidst the common things, and thus apart of the CoG whereas the CoM is driven by a love of man.

      Because the “common” whether done by Christians or pagans, are likewise sustained by the “holy love of God” and are outwardly indistinguishable and do not manifest the “Kingdom” at all, unless you want to claim that pagans can manifest Christ’s Kingdom. The other “motivation” angle also leads to the same conclusion as motivations are fundamentally inscrutable and internal and “manifests” nothing as well.

      As for the concept of a “sacrament”, I am not committed to the term as it is a rather late theological construct formulated to bring some explanatory order to the various rites of the Church and not exactly a Scriptural concept. I prefer to deal with the particular rites, ordinances and ceremonies directly instituted in Scripture themselves rather than deal with the concept of a sacrament.

      • Cal
        October 17, 2013

        Fair enough about Augustine. While I enjoy the history of ideas, I’m with you on not coming to blows over a legacy. I just use the name as a shorthand for what I’m trying to chart a course through.

        Here’s where we just disagree I suppose. Yes, ‘common grace’ does provide a stabilizing, a moving of the powers and thrones, to keep the world from engulfing itself and that comes in the form of morals. Yes, also, I’m not trying to promote some naval-gazing motivation inspection.

        However, what em-powers the follower is not the same as those who are not ‘in Christ’, that is to say they lack the love of God. Is this a morality I’m giving? No, but, they do not have “the love of God [that] has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.”

        Here Augustine nails it and it makes sense of so much of what Jesus commands. First thing that comes to mind is he empties out ‘leadership’ and fills it with himself: “The Gentiles lord it over others, but not so among you…”

        Yes believers are afflicted with the same motivations as a pagan or what have you, but it is as much as they are on the path to freedom, or if Luther-styled latin be your fancy, simul iustus et peccator.

        The Bonhoeffer quote tears up a spiritualized common conception that the ‘love of God’ is ascetic and monkish. I’m fine with that! But even he argued (and I’m not sure about this) in Cost of Discipleship that relationships are mediated, and the Christian has Jesus Christ standing between his friendships and familial ties. Regardless of whether that’s right, my point is that I could love my friend for himself, but in that I am, it is the love of God, manifest by the pouring out of the Holy Spirit.

        Again, yes, the believer struggles with his loyalty, but Jesus taught his apostles truly: one cannot serve God and Mammon. Or as Paul recapitulates: it’s either Jesus or Belial. That loyalty is what defines citizenship and citizenship defined by obedience to Christ’s command, which is the love of God poured out in us.

        I can’t quantify that as works or feelings, but the promise of a heart of flesh set free. Like in John 15, if He is the Vine, and I am the branch, we, like a tree, drink in that sap, which is that holy love.

        Cal

      • Dominic
        October 18, 2013

        Here’s where we just disagree I suppose. Yes, ‘common grace’ does provide a stabilizing, a moving of the powers and thrones, to keep the world from engulfing itself and that comes in the form of morals. Yes, also, I’m not trying to promote some naval-gazing motivation inspection.

        You use the word “common grace” as if it were some impersonal force rather than an act of holy love upon God’s part, whereby in love he imparts his loving grace unto both the heathens and the Christians to enable them to do works of temporal righteousness which is a faint reflection of the divine holy love. The sun rises upon the righteous and the unrighteous and the rain falls upon the good and the evil, this is how our heavenly Father loves us all, Christians or pagans, and those universal acts of common grace are a proper sign of that love. Likewise our heavenly Father loves all mankind by precisely giving us all, the faithful and the faithless, Christians or pagans, the “common grace” to do works of temporal righteousness, which is by itself the “sacramental” sign of God’s love in this world for everyone. Thus, the temporal or external righteousness of both the Christians and pagans equally have as its “core” the holy love of God.

        However, what em-powers the follower is not the same as those who are not ‘in Christ’, that is to say they lack the love of God. Is this a morality I’m giving? No, but, they do not have “the love of God [that] has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.”… my point is that I could love my friend for himself, but in that I am, it is the love of God, manifest by the pouring out of the Holy Spirit… Again, yes, the believer struggles with his loyalty, but Jesus taught his apostles truly: one cannot serve God and Mammon. Or as Paul recapitulates: it’s either Jesus or Belial. That loyalty is what defines citizenship and citizenship defined by obedience to Christ’s command, which is the love of God poured out in us.

        I think there is a slight equivocation here. In the passage of Romans 5:5, it isn’t talking about how we love others with the love of God for others, it is talking about how God’s love for us has been poured into our hearts, whereby we hope and endure tribulation, have faith, rejoice in the hope of the glory of God, etc. Therefore by the phrase “the love of God poured into your hearts by the Holy Spirit”, I understand the faith, hope and conviction of God’s love for us which gives us strength to endure tribulations and glory in God, etc, not so much the “manifestation” of this love for others in us, which is equally also “manifested” by pagans.

        Following Peter Lombard, I would argue that everyone on this earth, whether Christians or pagans, who engage in true love for neighbour in accordance to the ordained will of God, loves by the very same love which is the Holy Spirit, they are both “empowered” by the love of God (what else empowers the pagans to love? The malice of the devil?). The only difference between the Christian and the pagan is that the Christian, through the preaching of the Gospel, has faith and conviction of the love of God for them in their hearts, which faith and conviction is wrought by the Holy Spirit who brings conviction of the love of God for them in Jesus Christ through the preached Word. But God quite frankly can enact his love for everyone through anyone, not necessarily through Christians. But it is only through Christians whereby the word of the Gospel is preached and faith communicated.

        Yes believers are afflicted with the same motivations as a pagan or what have you, but it is as much as they are on the path to freedom, or if Luther-styled latin be your fancy, simul iustus et peccator.

        I think you misunderstand me. I don’t see being moved to good works by the same motivations as the pagan (e.g. shame, fear of dishonour or the judgement of others, etc) to be a bad thing, it is not an “affliction”. Since I believe these are the God ordained means for us to do good works and to steer us away from doing sin and doing righteousness, there is absolutely nothing wrong to be thus motivated. This is what I mean when I say we should not try to be more religious than God. We should continue in the earthly disciplines and means of common grace to maintain peace on earth and temporal righteousness, not pretend to be more religious than God and attempt to “jump out” of our normal earthly motivations in an attempt to be directly inspired by some mystical experience of God unto good works.

        I can’t quantify that as works or feelings, but the promise of a heart of flesh set free. Like in John 15, if He is the Vine, and I am the branch, we, like a tree, drink in that sap, which is that holy love.

        The freedom of the Christian consists in knowledge of the truth (you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free) and it is this knowledge of the truth is what guides our judgement of thoughts and actions, freeing us from lies and falsehood, and yes in that sense, it is a drinking from the sap of the truth of God’s holy love for us. But this is independent of the question of how God loves everyone else, etc.

  2. Cal
    October 18, 2013

    That’s why I put ‘common grace’ in those quote-marks. It’s not a great term because of its impersonal sound. Jesus created and sustains the whole cosmos vis. Col.2, and the Lord feeds the birds and clothes flowers.

    So since God sustains This World, and sorts it according to his purpose, it doesn’t mean there is no difference between the hearts of citizens of the CoG and the citizens of the CoM. Jesus told his disciples it was by their love they would be known. I’m not mushing up Romans 5 to say that the love of God being poured out results in loving the other. For the glorious reality of Romans 5 & 6 is poured into us so that we may no longer serve sin, and be free. That freedom is to obey and what else is that but to trust Christ and love as He commands? I don’t know!

    I’m not trying to count that love, those good works, as a marker or meter of life. For though we were promised to bear fruits unto life, how is such a thing counted? The promise must be accepted. So too is the command to love as Christ loved us.

    I don’t know why the love of God automatically equals some mysticism or trying to be “more religious than God”, and the normal worldly forms of fear, shame and self-interest should not be despised. Perfect love drives out fear, and while these things may remain, I need not be content in their existence. However, that’s not a call to some internal obsession on my own motivations.

    All I’m saying is that God loves all and gave Himself for all, and there the word stands to call many to the CoG and out of the CoM, even if we still live in its midst as pilgrims. Thus how one does things does not take a “Christian” context (as if there was a difference between secular-physics and christian-physics), but merely how one does things. That is to say, again, love one another as Jesus loved us. How that manifests in the things we do (marry, farm, build etc etc.) there is no specific, and this is apart of the freedom from sin.

    I’m enjoying this back and forth, helping me articulate my thoughts!

    Pax,
    Cal

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