Deus Ex Machina

"This is the generation of the great LEVIATHAN, or rather, to speak more reverently of that mortal god, to which we own under the immortal God, our peace and defense." -Thomas Hobbes: Leviathan

“What Do You Do When Your Son is Gay?”; Erm, Ask Him what does he mean?

There is this post floating around Facebook about how to respond to a son “outing” himself. But it contains one of the most ridiculous reasoning I’ve ever seen, to quote a segment:

Mom says: Yes I am listening
Ryan says: well i don’t know how to say this really but, well……, i can’t keep lying to you about myself. I have been hiding this for too long and i sorta have to tell u now. By now u probably have an idea of what i am about to say.
Ryan says: I am gay
Ryan says: i can’t believe i just told you
Mom says: Are you joking?
Ryan says: no
Ryan says: i thought you would understand because of uncle don
Mom says: of course I would
Mom says: but what makes you think you are?
Ryan says: i know i am
Ryan says: i don’t like hannah
Ryan says: it’s just a cover-up
Mom says: but that doesn’t make you gay…
Ryan says: i know
Ryan says: but u don’t understand
Ryan says: i am gay
Mom says: tell me more
Ryan says: it’s just the way i am and it’s something i know
Ryan says: u r not a lesbian and u know that it is the same thing
Mom says: what do you mean?
Ryan says: i am just gay
Ryan says: i am that
Mom says: I love you no matter what
Ryan says: i am white not black
Ryan says: i know
Ryan says: i am a boy not a girl
Ryan says: i am attracted to boys not girls
Ryan says: u know that about yourself and i know this
Mom says: what about what God thinks about acting on these desires?
Ryan says: i know
Mom says: thank you for telling me
Ryan says: and i am very confused about that right now
Mom says: I love you more for being honest
Ryan says: i know
Ryan says: thanx

I just know? Imagine if we construct an alternative scenario, this time with an atheist parent.

Ryan says: can i tell u something
Mom says: Yes I am listening
Ryan says: well i don’t know how to say this really but, well……, i can’t keep lying to you about myself. I have been hiding this for too long and i sorta have to tell u now. By now u probably have an idea of what i am about to say.
Ryan says: I think God is talking my heart
Ryan says: i can’t believe i just told you
Mom says: Are you joking?
Ryan says: no
Ryan says: i thought you would understand because of uncle don
Mom says: of course I would
Mom says: but what makes you think God is in your heart
Ryan says: i know He is.
Ryan says: i don’t like living without God
Ryan says: it’s just a cover-up
Mom says: but that doesn’t mean God is talking to your heart.
Ryan says: i know
Ryan says: but u don’t understand
Ryan says: God is in my heart.
Mom says: tell me more
Ryan says: that’s just the way it is and it’s something i know
Ryan says: u r not a believer and u know that it is the same thing
Mom says: what do you mean?
Ryan says: God is just in my heart
Ryan says: it is that
Mom says: I love you no matter what
Ryan says: i am white not black
Ryan says: i know
Ryan says: i am a boy not a girl
Ryan says: i am attracted to God not secularism
Ryan says: u know that about yourself and i know this
Mom says: what about what science thinks about acting on these desires?
Ryan says: i know
Mom says: thank you for telling me
Ryan says: and i am very confused about that right now
Mom says: I love you more for being honest
Ryan says: i know
Ryan says: thanx

Now, would any atheist simply accept that, “oh, I just know that God exists” without asking for proof, reasons or even an explanation of what one means? Would anyone accept a proposition upon a say so? Of course not. But somehow when it comes to sexual orientation, suddenly reasons and arguments go right out of the window and a sort of irrationality sets in. If it is perfectly reasonable and rational not to accept a believer’s claim to “just know” that God exists upon a say so, without asking for an explanation or proof of what one means, likewise must it be perfectly reasonable to not simply accept a teenager’s claim about something as nebulous as “sexual orientation” upon a say so but to interrogate what one means by that.

And you can begin here: Introduction to the Rationality of Sex; Ambiguity of Sexual Orientations and Desire or What Gays Want

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